Comments on: Bihari or Indian…!!! http://rewa.wordpress.com/2008/02/05/bihari-or-indian/ .....when the blue water plays with the shore to tell something..... Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:03:05 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Dr Vishwas Saxena http://rewa.wordpress.com/2008/02/05/bihari-or-indian/#comment-10758 Dr Vishwas Saxena Tue, 12 May 2009 08:00:02 +0000 http://rewa.wordpress.com/?p=137#comment-10758 Dear initiator of this discussion what I could gather from your statement are following questions culminating into outbursted discussion and converging into an issue!these questions are as: 1.Your ethnic sensuality for the state of Bihar evidently manifested by your reactions towards people's notion for Bihar state! 2. Causes of current state of affairs of bihar leading to a noticable migration of biharis. 3. Your pain towards non acceptance or surprised response of community members for your shaping up as an individual linked with your referred state and rural backdrop. I respond to it in the same order only: 1.I am convinced that every individual is possessive and conscious about her/his state of origin.We all are in habit of labelling any state on the basis of its economy and its present contribution in the countries capital.So pronounced is its impact that we glorify its history and people too.A few northern states enjoy this favour.Bihar despite of its rich resources and other contribution got noted for a few traditional pattern of people and circumtancially got misinterpretated for biased generalisation.Now my point is if you are so sensitive to this plight of state then elevate your standards of accomplishment in every field and end all the preconcept notions.As already quoted by you that the people of state have shwn their worth in iit/upsc/other prestigious exams.But it is not enough,To build a new image you have to channalize all the youths to trigger change! this doesnt require a senstivity or anger , this requires anguish converted into well structured action.Secondly instead of feeling offended for your state you yourself feel that the people of one part of India are migrating because of various reasons.why cant a statetegy be taken to curb that? ponder upon it and launch an stategy with your peer to begin with.I suggest govt. has already started a country wide intervention by creating National rural employment gurantee act[NREGA]and let me add a personal touch its good to be an student of JNU/Navodya,but it doesnt' change your original self cause you will acheive by your personal merits and not by institutional support.We cannot regard JNU OR Navodhya as a property of any one particular state or province please.Even if you could have studied in your state you could have been special by the virtue of your personal accomplishment only and I feel so you are! 2.Migration is an epidemic and is prevailing in every state in want of employment only,Best way to curb is in hands of sensible people like you,concentrate your tallents in the upliftment of your villages in whatever field you may be.Then only you have right to defend your state. 3.I think third point is already covered. I am from rajasthan but am proud to be an indian first.See,belongingness to a state is to equip you with its socio-cultural wealth and bring laurels to the nation. I imbibed the history and approach of valiant rajasthanis and converted into my todays persuit to enshine name of my nation only.When my poetry was selected by keats shelly memorial the mail of curator of this organisation spoke "I am glad to see the effect of john keats as far as in India,that too far in the muuddy terrains of rajasthan---!" similarly UNESCO released my research paper on its official website for global agenda the bracket against me beared the word INDIA--I felt quite nostalgic! before I conclude may I request something,please shed this habbit of proving yourself[I mean all of us]patriotic by abusing the Britishers only.Never forget that it was their existence which made us feel one and as fellow countrymen lest we were in habbit of saluting our local landlords.Accept it candidly that we have also learnt from them.I remind you one slogan think globally and act locally.Be open to every country true to ourreligous scripture saying वासुदेव कुटूम्बुकुम Jaihind Dr Vishwas Saxena Dear initiator of this discussion
what I could gather from your statement are following questions culminating into outbursted discussion and converging into an issue!these questions are as:
1.Your ethnic sensuality for the state of Bihar evidently manifested by your reactions towards people’s notion for Bihar state!
2. Causes of current state of affairs of bihar leading to a noticable migration of biharis.
3. Your pain towards non acceptance or surprised response of community members for your shaping up as an individual linked with your referred state and rural backdrop.
I respond to it in the same order only:
1.I am convinced that every individual is possessive and conscious about her/his state of origin.We all are in habit of labelling any state on the basis of its economy and its present contribution in the countries capital.So pronounced is its impact that we glorify its history and people too.A few northern states enjoy this favour.Bihar despite of its rich resources and other contribution got noted for a few traditional pattern of people and circumtancially got misinterpretated for biased generalisation.Now my point is if you are so sensitive to this plight of state then elevate your standards of accomplishment in every field and end all the preconcept notions.As already quoted by you that the people of state have shwn their worth in iit/upsc/other prestigious exams.But it is not enough,To build a new image you have to channalize all the youths to trigger change!
this doesnt require a senstivity or anger , this requires anguish converted into well structured action.Secondly instead of feeling offended for your state you yourself feel that the people of one part of India are migrating because of various reasons.why cant a statetegy be taken to curb that? ponder upon it and launch an stategy with your peer to begin with.I suggest govt. has already started a country wide intervention by creating National rural employment gurantee act[NREGA]and let me add a personal touch its good to be an student of JNU/Navodya,but it doesnt’ change your original self cause you will acheive by your personal merits and not by institutional support.We cannot regard JNU OR Navodhya as a property of any one particular state or province please.Even if you could have studied in your state you could have been special by the virtue of your personal accomplishment only and I feel so you are!
2.Migration is an epidemic and is prevailing in every state in want of employment only,Best way to curb is in hands of sensible people like you,concentrate your tallents in the upliftment of your villages in whatever field you may be.Then only you have right to defend your state.
3.I think third point is already covered.
I am from rajasthan but am proud to be an indian first.See,belongingness to a state is to equip you with its socio-cultural wealth and bring laurels to the nation. I imbibed the history and approach of valiant rajasthanis and converted into my todays persuit to enshine name of my nation only.When my poetry was selected by keats shelly memorial the mail of curator of this organisation spoke “I am glad to see the effect of john keats as far as in India,that too far in the muuddy terrains of rajasthan—!” similarly UNESCO released my research paper on its official website for global agenda the bracket against me beared the word INDIA–I felt quite nostalgic!
before I conclude may I request something,please shed this habbit of proving yourself[I mean all of us]patriotic by abusing the Britishers only.Never forget that it was their existence which made us feel one and as fellow countrymen lest we were in habbit of saluting our local landlords.Accept it candidly that we have also learnt from them.I remind you one slogan think globally and act locally.Be open to every country true to ourreligous scripture saying
वासुदेव कुटूम्बुकुम
Jaihind
Dr Vishwas Saxena

]]> By: Ashish http://rewa.wordpress.com/2008/02/05/bihari-or-indian/#comment-3183 Ashish Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:28:42 +0000 http://rewa.wordpress.com/?p=137#comment-3183 Mr. Shyam Vinod Meena, if you are so sure about your ideologies then why dont you correct the place from where you belong...Rajasthan. Its not that Rajasthan is a very bright state, its in the same shakling state as Bihar is...so now its the time for you to see beneath your coller. Mr. Shyam Vinod Meena,

if you are so sure about your ideologies then why dont you correct the place from where you belong…Rajasthan. Its not that Rajasthan is a very bright state, its in the same shakling state as Bihar is…so now its the time for you to see beneath your coller.

]]> By: milind http://rewa.wordpress.com/2008/02/05/bihari-or-indian/#comment-3080 milind Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:07:39 +0000 http://rewa.wordpress.com/?p=137#comment-3080 The issue is not at all related whether they should be accepted or not the issue is about that the by neglecting qulifiers biharis should not be given any more preference as this is not according to the laws The issue is not at all related whether they should be accepted or not the issue is about that the by neglecting qulifiers biharis should not be given any more preference as this is not according to the laws

]]> By: Suraj http://rewa.wordpress.com/2008/02/05/bihari-or-indian/#comment-2716 Suraj Sun, 10 Aug 2008 08:32:33 +0000 http://rewa.wordpress.com/?p=137#comment-2716 FOLKs.......give comments to What Rewa has written under main topic...if you don't like any thing don't cry and blame person individually....rather reply properly. Rewa is doing great job of providing a very good platform for her friends to share their views on important topics. She has started this very good discussion...so let us keep it good and try to make it even better. Folks..........Encourage your friends. FOLKs…….give comments to What Rewa has written under main topic…if you don’t like any thing don’t cry and blame person individually….rather reply properly. Rewa is doing great job of providing a very good platform for her friends to share their views on important topics. She has started this very good discussion…so let us keep it good and try to make it even better.
Folks……….Encourage your friends.

]]> By: Suraj http://rewa.wordpress.com/2008/02/05/bihari-or-indian/#comment-2713 Suraj Sun, 10 Aug 2008 06:01:49 +0000 http://rewa.wordpress.com/?p=137#comment-2713 Bhaiyon aur Behno.............. I know it is serius issue but don't go too personal with it. Don't make Rewa's blog page a battle field for biharis Vs non-biharis to express your DIL ki BHADAAS. Please note that we as indian -people and indian -state, are same. So don't make out things/statements from picture given by our media and our local people (bihari or non-bihari). And just to support your statement (which might be fake), never use any statistics like "Statistics yehi dikhata hai ki Maharastra ka crime rate bhi Bihar ke crime rate se comparable hai"(Thakre might say...this is becuase of biharis in Maharashtra....It's JOKE) because statistics also shows that PATNA has greater literacy rate than CYBERCITY (Sikanderabad) OF ANDHRA PRADESH. I can give you 100% assurance that these statistics are of no use AND indeed make no sense for you and me. Also note that there is no STATE in India which satisfies all parameters to be "A DEVELOPED STATE". Maharashtra is powerless these days.......there is biggest electricity crisis that any state in independent India could ever had. ANDHRA-MAHARASHTRA- there are farmers every killing themselves every day. TAMILNADU-KARNATAKA- killing each other for water. I have never been to Bihar. All I heard about bihar is from my bihari friends only....99% of whom are upper cast biharis (YADAVs/PANDITs/SHUKLAs etc). I have read alot about BIHAR in books....watched documentaries/feature films (all bad -70% and good -30 % things). So this gave overall no so good picture of BIHAR...and well about BIHARIs....I have done engineering.....so most of my bihari friends very BINDHAAST/KHATARNAAK/DILDAAR/DADAs/YADAVs/AMIR ke BACHHE. I had talented/Cool BIHARI friends and all of them were in NITs and IITs and JNUs. BUT I do believe that all these things movies/books/people I came accross about BIHAR don't represent 100% bihar. I may be wrong. Please note that...no one faces problem who work with MNCs/Private Companies/Govts/NGOs/MEdia. Problems are always faced by AAM AADMI who lives on the streets in the SLUMs whether they are bihari or non bihari...I am talking about class three and four people. They will be always screwed up and manipulated......... by THAKREs (if they mumbaikars).....by Yadavs (if they are biharis-lower casts in BIHAR) or Abu Azmi (if they are UP-BIHARI). You, me and Hum are all.....scoundrels. Remember those are scoundrels who think they are been ruled by scoundrels. So....Don't blame politicians......Thakres/Yadavs/Azmis.......they are heros for our people (at least for some people)...though not for you and me. If you think you are better than them (politicians)....then come on.. lead our people and make them eduated more aware like you. If you can't do that.........the shut the F$#k up!! Please Don't fight....becuase you and me.....biharis and non-biharis we together have a great responsibility .......to make a better BIHAR and better INDIA. Sorry...Nikhil and Mamta ...your comments I found.....too personal for each other though good... .........lekin agar pyaar nahi karana hai to ladaai bhi mat karo........kyon ki zyaada ladaai karane walon ko thoda-bahut pyaar bhi karana padta hai !! JAAN HAI TO JAHAAN HAI.......... SURAJ BORKAR Bhaiyon aur Behno…………..

I know it is serius issue but don’t go too personal with it. Don’t make Rewa’s blog page a battle field for biharis Vs non-biharis to express your DIL ki BHADAAS.

Please note that we as indian -people and indian -state, are same. So don’t make out things/statements from picture given by our media and our local people (bihari or non-bihari). And just to support your statement (which might be fake), never use any statistics like “Statistics yehi dikhata hai ki Maharastra ka crime rate bhi Bihar ke crime rate se comparable hai”(Thakre might say…this is becuase of biharis in Maharashtra….It’s JOKE) because statistics also shows that PATNA has greater literacy rate than CYBERCITY (Sikanderabad) OF ANDHRA PRADESH. I can give you 100% assurance that these statistics are of no use AND indeed make no sense for you and me.

Also note that there is no STATE in India which satisfies all parameters to be “A DEVELOPED STATE”. Maharashtra is powerless these days…….there is biggest electricity crisis that any state in independent India could ever had. ANDHRA-MAHARASHTRA- there are farmers every killing themselves every day. TAMILNADU-KARNATAKA- killing each other for water.

I have never been to Bihar. All I heard about bihar is from my bihari friends only….99% of whom are upper cast biharis (YADAVs/PANDITs/SHUKLAs etc). I have read alot about BIHAR in books….watched documentaries/feature films (all bad -70% and good -30 % things). So this gave overall no so good picture of BIHAR…and well about BIHARIs….I have done engineering…..so most of my bihari friends very BINDHAAST/KHATARNAAK/DILDAAR/DADAs/YADAVs/AMIR ke BACHHE. I had talented/Cool BIHARI friends and all of them were in NITs and IITs and JNUs.
BUT I do believe that all these things movies/books/people I came accross about BIHAR don’t represent 100% bihar. I may be wrong.

Please note that…no one faces problem who work with MNCs/Private Companies/Govts/NGOs/MEdia. Problems are always faced by AAM AADMI who lives on the streets in the SLUMs whether they are bihari or non bihari…I am talking about class three and four people. They will be always screwed up and manipulated……… by THAKREs (if they mumbaikars)…..by Yadavs (if they are biharis-lower casts in BIHAR) or Abu Azmi (if they are UP-BIHARI).

You, me and Hum are all…..scoundrels. Remember those are scoundrels who think they are been ruled by scoundrels. So….Don’t blame politicians……Thakres/Yadavs/Azmis…….they are heros for our people (at least for some people)…though not for you and me. If you think you are better than them (politicians)….then come on.. lead our people and make them eduated more aware like you. If you can’t do that………the shut the F$#k up!!

Please Don’t fight….becuase you and me…..biharis and non-biharis we together have a great responsibility …….to make a better BIHAR and better INDIA.

Sorry…Nikhil and Mamta …your comments I found…..too personal for each other though good…
………lekin agar pyaar nahi karana hai to ladaai bhi mat karo……..kyon ki zyaada ladaai karane walon ko thoda-bahut pyaar bhi karana padta hai !!

JAAN HAI TO JAHAAN HAI……….
SURAJ BORKAR

]]> By: rohit http://rewa.wordpress.com/2008/02/05/bihari-or-indian/#comment-2684 rohit Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:05:42 +0000 http://rewa.wordpress.com/?p=137#comment-2684 Nikhil Mere samj me ek baat nahi aati, kahna kuch chaateh oh kahte kuch ho......brain drain whole nation ki problem hai..aur Koi kahi bhi rahe, kisi bhi state me, kisi ko rokne ka haak nahi hai. Mera Desh Mahan tha, hai, rahega. Politician desh ka bhala kitna karte hai yeh sab jante hai. per sare kharab nahi hai Agar resourse ki baat kare, to jara batao desh me jitne mines hai kaha hai? Uns mines se nikle iron se desh ka bhala hota hai. Kia woh sirf bihar ka hai. Agar Puri royality Bihar Ko mile yaa sabhi factory bihar me lag jaye to kia ho. India ki last 2500 yrs ki history ne se 1500yrs ki history bihar ki history hai. Maghad Ki Satta gai to uski virasat pure hindustan me koi nahi sambhal saka. South em Rajaedra Chole ko chode ke.(Woh bhi single king) Last 1500 hrd yeres em kaun sa raja hua jisne hindustan ko ek sutra me bhanda. Akbar bhi pure hindustan per kabhiz nahi ho paya tha. Rohit So ek baat yaad rakhna Hindustan ki kismat jsiase bhi ho bihar or UP ko hi likhni hai. Nikhil
Mere samj me ek baat nahi aati, kahna kuch chaateh oh kahte kuch ho……brain drain whole nation ki problem hai..aur Koi kahi bhi rahe, kisi bhi state me, kisi ko rokne ka haak nahi hai. Mera Desh Mahan tha, hai, rahega. Politician desh ka bhala kitna karte hai yeh sab jante hai. per sare kharab nahi hai

Agar resourse ki baat kare, to jara batao desh me jitne mines hai kaha hai? Uns mines se nikle iron se desh ka bhala hota hai. Kia woh sirf bihar ka hai. Agar Puri royality Bihar Ko mile yaa sabhi factory bihar me lag jaye to kia ho.

India ki last 2500 yrs ki history ne se 1500yrs ki history bihar ki history hai. Maghad Ki Satta gai to uski virasat pure hindustan me koi nahi sambhal saka. South em Rajaedra Chole ko chode ke.(Woh bhi single king) Last 1500 hrd yeres em kaun sa raja hua jisne hindustan ko ek sutra me bhanda. Akbar bhi pure hindustan per kabhiz nahi ho paya tha.
Rohit
So ek baat yaad rakhna Hindustan ki kismat jsiase bhi ho bihar or UP ko hi likhni hai.

]]> By: mamta http://rewa.wordpress.com/2008/02/05/bihari-or-indian/#comment-2679 mamta Mon, 04 Aug 2008 12:06:39 +0000 http://rewa.wordpress.com/?p=137#comment-2679 @nikhil, Jo ko nikhil...man gaye tumko...itna samjhane ke bad bewakoof ke bewakoof hi rahe tum.. U do one thing..go back to ur native(as u said somewhr border of maharastra n karnataka..i didnt get to see tht name..this is how u said it) n make it the capital of ur DEVELOPED COUNTRY MAHARASTRA....N DANCE ALL ALONE LIKE FOOL..... HA HA HA HA HAAAAAA HA HA HA....belive me u wil look great.... n yes do let me know later...till how many days days ur country is developed...DANCING ALL ALONE.... n yes...u mind ur language first... "They will be so expensive for the poor states like bihar.. then wat will you eat??? so think before you write..!!" Who r u to judge my pocket.... U first learn how to speak or if u cant dont worry i l teach u.... Aise tumko kuch sikha nahi sakte...tum bhi raj thakre type ho....NO BRAIN... @nikhil,

Jo ko nikhil…man gaye tumko…itna samjhane ke bad bewakoof ke bewakoof hi rahe tum..

U do one thing..go back to ur native(as u said somewhr border of maharastra n karnataka..i didnt get to see tht name..this is how u said it) n make it the capital of ur DEVELOPED COUNTRY MAHARASTRA….N DANCE ALL ALONE LIKE FOOL…..

HA HA HA HA HAAAAAA HA HA HA….belive me u wil look great….

n yes do let me know later…till how many days days ur country is developed…DANCING ALL ALONE….

n yes…u mind ur language first…

“They will be so expensive for the poor states like bihar.. then wat will you eat??? so think before you write..!!”

Who r u to judge my pocket….

U first learn how to speak or if u cant dont worry i l teach u….

Aise tumko kuch sikha nahi sakte…tum bhi raj thakre type ho….NO BRAIN…

]]> By: nikhil http://rewa.wordpress.com/2008/02/05/bihari-or-indian/#comment-2677 nikhil Mon, 04 Aug 2008 08:29:43 +0000 http://rewa.wordpress.com/?p=137#comment-2677 @ Tanweer, Hi,m not as great writer as you , one shouldnt comment on the thing which he does not know...How can you say that I get pay for the work m doin?? By my language? You are great yaar...!!! Then I hav lot of space to doubt you if I read your comments nd the language you hav used that you are from DUBLIN..!!! Bt your work is commendable..!!! best wishes...!! Learn to express urself in a better way..as you are representing Indian community out there...learning english wont tek much efforts for genious person like you...!! I found your argument very childish...!! WHo are you to hike taxes?? & will you afford to buy these goods?? They will be so expensive for the poor states like bihar.. then wat will you eat??? so think before you write..!! Everyone should give preferance to nation..its very easy to say that sittin at the bay..!!! wat is NATION?? collection of states,right?? If we people develop our respective states it will ultimately lead to development of nation as a whole..but development of nation doesnt mean that developing METROS like mumbai.. Migration of people will always lead to erosion of afluent resources available out there but it wont countribute very little to their native place,which leads to regional disparity...!!! Think abt the brain drain happening in Bihar..if the state retains them we can see Bihar at much better position..!!! I hav no doubts abt your capabilities dude...!! keep it up...!! @ Tanweer,

Hi,m not as great writer as you , one shouldnt comment on the thing which he does not know…How can you say that I get pay for the work m doin?? By my language? You are great yaar…!!!

Then I hav lot of space to doubt you if I read your comments nd the language you hav used that you are from DUBLIN..!!! Bt your work is commendable..!!! best wishes…!!

Learn to express urself in a better way..as you are representing Indian community out there…learning english wont tek much efforts for genious person like you…!!

I found your argument very childish…!!
WHo are you to hike taxes?? & will you afford to buy these goods?? They will be so expensive for the poor states like bihar.. then wat will you eat??? so think before you write..!!

Everyone should give preferance to nation..its very easy to say that sittin at the bay..!!!
wat is NATION?? collection of states,right?? If we people develop our respective states it will ultimately lead to development of nation as a whole..but development of nation doesnt mean that developing METROS like mumbai..
Migration of people will always lead to erosion of afluent resources available out there but it wont countribute very little to their native place,which leads to regional disparity…!!!
Think abt the brain drain happening in Bihar..if the state retains them we can see Bihar at much better position..!!!

I hav no doubts abt your capabilities dude…!! keep it up…!!

]]> By: rohit http://rewa.wordpress.com/2008/02/05/bihari-or-indian/#comment-2674 rohit Sun, 03 Aug 2008 18:13:13 +0000 http://rewa.wordpress.com/?p=137#comment-2674 Hi I am totaly agree wtih tanweer and shanta views. Rohit Hi
I am totaly agree wtih tanweer and shanta views.
Rohit

]]> By: Tanweer http://rewa.wordpress.com/2008/02/05/bihari-or-indian/#comment-2672 Tanweer Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:46:18 +0000 http://rewa.wordpress.com/?p=137#comment-2672 Mr. Nikhil, I just went through your comment posted on this forum. Though you are doing great job for underprivileged people. The word, the sentences and way you have described yourself is not great and I can say that the job you are doing only for money and you are getting paid for that work. I am in Dublin and we are also doing lot of charity work. We students collecting money and using it for social welfare. It will be surprised to you that we built multistory school in UTTAMNAGAR (New Delhi) and we also working in Africa and Latin countries. You can get our fellow students there in Delhi even today.....They are working very hard........carrying bricks and cement by themselves in this hot conditions. Everybody wants to live with his/her loved ones at home...but due to some reason we are away from home. It doesn't make any sense to say that always migrants are beneficiaries. It is based on mutual benefits. How Bihari labours contributing to Maharashtra? Mumbai is the economic capital of India. Most the corporate office is there. These corporates producing goods in Mahrashtra and other state. If goods are produced in Maharashtra, you are getting revenue coz corporate offices are there and selling is done by them. Where goods are saled? Most of the goods are saled in Bihar and UP. You are asking of 80% reservation in private job. If we rasie 80% hike in sale tax…what will be your future? Why Bihar is Poor? We never thought any thing narrow minded like some state did in the past that led to emergence of regional parties like Shiv sena. We always consider ourselves as an Indian and we gave preference to the country over our state and you people always given preference to your state. If you have any doubt don’t hesitate to ask me..tanweer.alam@ucd.ie Mr. Nikhil,
I just went through your comment posted on this forum. Though you are doing great job for underprivileged people. The word, the sentences and way you have described yourself is not great and I can say that the job you are doing only for money and you are getting paid for that work. I am in Dublin and we are also doing lot of charity work. We students collecting money and using it for social welfare. It will be surprised to you that we built multistory school in UTTAMNAGAR (New Delhi) and we also working in Africa and Latin countries. You can get our fellow students there in Delhi even today…..They are working very hard……..carrying bricks and cement by themselves in this hot conditions.

Everybody wants to live with his/her loved ones at home…but due to some reason we are away from home. It doesn’t make any sense to say that always migrants are beneficiaries. It is based on mutual benefits.

How Bihari labours contributing to Maharashtra?
Mumbai is the economic capital of India. Most the corporate office is there. These corporates producing goods in Mahrashtra and other state. If goods are produced in Maharashtra, you are getting revenue coz corporate offices are there and selling is done by them.
Where goods are saled?
Most of the goods are saled in Bihar and UP.
You are asking of 80% reservation in private job. If we rasie 80% hike in sale tax…what will be your future?
Why Bihar is Poor?
We never thought any thing narrow minded like some state did in the past that led to emergence of regional parties like Shiv sena. We always consider ourselves as an Indian and we gave preference to the country over our state and you people always given preference to your state.

If you have any doubt don’t hesitate to ask me..tanweer.alam@ucd.ie

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